It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. Copyright 2021 KPLC. Well, if the cause is "something else" there is zero chance that we'll find out anything about it through a non-existent investigation by the NTSB or the FAA. The intentional lie about finding the missing blade showed how little regard for their loss the tuber actually has. Visitation will resume on Saturday February 6, 2021 at Trinity Baptist Church from 10:00 a.m. until 11:30 AM, with a Mass of Christian Burial to be observed at 12 noon on Saturday, February 6, 2021, at the Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception, 935 Bilbo Street, Lake Charles, Johnson Funeral Home, Lake Charles has been entrusted with arrangements. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. Like I said, I am a human being. During a news conference livestreamed by the station, Mancuso said that when talking with Palermos wife, I joked that Rock was only an attorney so he could have a hobby of being a policeman and a pilot. This is the type of crash that likely catches LOTS of self-aware pilots' attentionInre your (Winchman's) observation/question noted in the 1st paragraph, writing as a (never-used-for-income) aerospace-engineering-degreed, ~2600-hr glider-only pilot who also 'messed around w. RC gliders', one 'obvious difference' between RC power planes and full-sized ones is what I'll call 'prop-disc-area/mass ratio' differences, with the RC 'ratio' being considerably higher than that for man-carrying (182) equivalents. Louisianaauthoritieshad identified the pilot earlier as Richard Don Clements and his instructor as Rock Palermo. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. In the last 12 seconds of recorded data, the airplane made a right turn and had descended about 3,200 ft. The families have been notified, they report. Palermo and Clements were killed when their Cessna. Good point, thanks. Stream LIVE news here. He should be smart enough to simply ask someone else to report the find to the FSDO if his ongoing vendetta complicates doing so on his own. This is certainly one of the most mysterious 182 crashes in recent history. The NTSB report outlines the final moments the craft was in flight. I had a nearly half-scale Spacewalker that weighed only 25 pounds. The FAA is proposing this AD to address the unsafe condition on these products.DATES:The FAA must receive comments on this proposed AD by June 29, 2020. Smoke billows after a small touring plane crashed over the San Donato Milanese district in Milan. An obituary for Rock Palermo can be found HERE. No matter how much his soul hates the NTSB, only a cruel ghoul would leave the wreck site without making sure the blade got into hands-on possession of the local FSDO. i could tell him to study something, hed come in and hed know more about it than me, he said. The men say Palermo brought them on board the CPSO Aviation Division and add, they will miss him tremendously. Look it up. The Pulaski County, Arkansas, Sheriff's Office confirmed it had responded at about noon local time. It gave a number of details about the circumstances of the flight but did not indicate what caused the crash. According to the How do I know if I have a cold, the flu or COVID-19? Other questions:subscriberservices@theadvocate.com. Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. Dr. Kevin Dupke, the Cameron Parish coroner, said he was at the crash site Wednesday with federal investigators and could not confirm the second mans name. The Tigers beat out No. A debris field that consisted of the wings and smaller airplane components extended about 40 yards from the crater. They consider him a mentor and the best pilot they knew. Single engine, one of the most reliable planes on the planet. They are certain of Palermos ability to handle any emergency. As expected, he didn't find it, just a lie told for clicks. During training, broker was in the back seat with the two in the front. This proposed AD would require inspecting the tailcone and horizontal stabilizer for corrosion and cracks and repairing or replacing damaged parts as necessary. The flight was operated as a Title 14 Code of Federal Regulations Part 91 instructional flight. Investigators said there was so much damage it limited how much they could investigate. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. @ http://kirtlandflightcenter.org/wp-content/uploads/C182-POH.pdf notes that "Prompt lowering of the nose to maintain airspeed and establish a glide attitude is the first response to an engine failure" and a Figure indicating at a 'speed 70 kias, prop windmilling, flaps up, zero wind" the ideal glide distance from 4,000 AGL to ground is 6 miles." He was a partner in the firm of Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson in Lake Charles, and he was a founding member of the Judge Albert Tate Inn of Court. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Authorities are investigating after a jet from Luke Air Force Base crashed near Buckeye north of the White Tank Mountains on Thursday morning, according to Sean Clements, a . Speaking with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard Don Clements. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. They will update with funeral arrangements and honors at a future date. Clemente's plane was allegedly "unfit" to fly. MOON TOWNSHIP, Pa. Greater Pittsburgh Airport was still considered new when the regularly scheduled TWA Flight 400 crashed on Easter Sunday in 1956. The family respectfully asks that visitors wear masks and practice social distancing, adhering to local regulations regarding COVID-19. Figure 1 shows the end of the recorded flight track and the accident location. Calcasieu Sheriff Tony Mancuso got emotional while speaking Wednesday morning at a news conference. Wednesday afternoon, a procession was held as Palermo was brought to a Jennings funeral home, click here for more. Copyright 2021 KPLC. The fuel selector valve was found positioned to feed from both fuel tanks. Hes just one of those people you cant replace.. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash and will turn over the investigation to Federal Aviation Administration investigators from Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. In July of 1973, the National Transportation Safety Board ruled that Clemente's DC-7 was 4,200 pounds overweight, and that it had not been flown in over four months. The passenger plane with 190 people on board crashed at the Calicut airport in the southern state of Kerala, killing 21 people. (AP) A pilot and a passenger in a small airplane were killed when the plane crashed in a rural area near North Platte in central Nebraska, officials said. When in that position in that maneuver, you need to push forward and complete the roll, but when inverted, everything is upside down and backwards, so the natural tendency or the instinct for anybody who has not gotten instruction in that maneuver is to pull back hard which points the plane straight at the ground, ground speed drops towards zero as the vertical speed and airspeed goes off the dials, the rotational inertia of the roll causes the plane to continue to roll as it heads down, and you pull out (or impact) going towards a right angle to the right of the original path if you were attempting to roll to the left. No responsible person aware of the circumstances would leave it.Ask yourself: Why leave it there? He was a certified flight instructor and passed on his joy of flying to many. BATON ROUGE, La. I hope the the NTSB will be able to determine a cause other than undetermined loss of control. At least 68 people were killed Sunday when an aircraft went down near the city of Pokhara in central Nepal, a government official said, the country's deadliest plane crash in more than 30 years. Don was a member of the Krewe of Contraband. Don, a Certified Financial Planner CFP professional, had been active in investing and financial planning since 2002. Palermo was a local attorney at Veron, Bice, Palermo & Wilson and was a pilot with the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Office. Pallbearers are Todd Ammons, Kirk Clements, Bob Harp, Joseph Pousson, Kevin Robbins, and Henry Riquelmy. No dive. The last 12 seconds of recorded data show the plane made a right turn and descended 3,200 feet leading up to the accident. I'd expect the model to be MUCH more sensitive to 'prop-disc-effects' than the man-carrying versionwhich is not to suggest they don't exist for a full-sized C-182. AD is for problems that showed up on the tail draggers.Models 182 through 182D airplanes have the same tailcone design as Model 185-series tail draggers. In a typical configuration, it has 178 seats . Palermo was an instructor on the flight and Clements was a student. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. Think about the circumstances that would fit with acceptance of not finding the missing blade.Examination of the recovered prop hub must have clearly indicated that the blade was thrown during flight, not broken out during impact. If Rock couldnt recover from this, I dont think anyone else could, said Kerbow. You have permission to edit this article. with Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson, KPLC reports that Johnson said the bodies are believed to be Rock Palermo and Richard . Rocks the best pilot I ever met, said Thompson. All rights reserved. The 737-800 is a twin-engine, single-aisle plane commonly used for short and medium-haul flights. Thrown blade and resulting immediate out of balance could have ripped an engine mount, canted the engine in some way creating horrendous aerodynamics and an unrecoverable dive? Email notifications are only sent once a day, and only if there are new matching items. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. When that happens, if you come out of the botched slow roll, you level out traveling in a direction at an angle of about 50 t0 80 degrees from your original course in the direction opposite of the direction of the attempted roll. He is survived by his wife, Nancy, and their children, Mary Kathryn and Will. He was in the back seat of the airplane the day before when the two accidents pilots were conducting a training flight. yeah these are the crashes that really bother me --the unknown cause ones .That's when I consider --should I really be flying planes ? They introduced their family to the joys of diving. The impact crater is 15 feet deep and wings were crushed aft to the rear wing spar.Can't crush wings rearward like that or crater that deep coming in level. Accused murderer cleared by Baton Rouge jury after representing himself in court, released from jail, School accused of ignoring sexual misconduct of student later arrested in high-profile rape case. whatever you told him to study, he studied it. Plane nosedived 15 feet into the ground, according to NTSB report on Hackberry plane crash. This seems mechanical or structural based on the flight path which, hopefully, NTSB will clear up if so. File photo of police lights (iStockPhoto). Scene of plane crash near Hackberry in Cameron Parish February 3, 2021 . Don was dearly loved by the entire Shaddock family, numerous relatives and friends. Baton Rouge man arrested in Ascension horse theft; one adult, two minors Southern University AgCenter's Livestock Show celebrates its 80th anniversary, St. John's big inning hands Southeastern second straight loss, Coach Kim Mulkey talks LSU's record-tying season. Plane was owned by an aviation company in Sulfur. Bold criminal secretly relaunched massage parlor prostitution ring as he cut a Federal, local dollars at work clearing waterways in EBR. Cameron Sheriff: Two bodies recovered from plane crash near Hackberry, La. HACKBERRY, La. You keep flying the airplane. These are the ones that really concern me. It's their job to travel to accident sites to determine the cause. For example, look up "Free energy device" on youtube and notice how many people believe in perpetual motion. The data showed that the airplane maneuvered near the coast then proceeded north as the altitude and airspeed increased. The report said two of the propeller's three blades were on the hub at the nose of the plane, but the third was not found. High speed nose down impact. These bloated agencies are primarily in the business of keeping their empires intact and in remaining on covid vacation as long as possible. GREENVILLE, S.C. - No. He can then use it becoming "lost" to push the "NTSB is at fault for not being on site" canard. Port Allen Pelicans basketball team soaring toward fourth-straight state title, Sample duo leading Scotlandville into playoffs, For help accessing the WBRZ-TV Public File, contact: Joey Verrett at, LSU gymnastics club meet brings tourists to downtown Baton Rouge. Leaving the blade there and risking it getting picked up by the next random visitor to the wreck site would be a disservice to solving the mystery. Daniel Dal Zennaro/EPA-EFE/Shutt. The Martin 404 aircraft was heading to . On January 30, 1993, Don married the love of his life, Nancy Edith Shaddock Clements, at the First United Methodist Church in Lake Charles, LA. I think its a possibility that needs to be explored by people who know a whole lot more about it than I do. AGENCY:Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), DOT.ACTION:Notice of proposed rulemaking (NPRM).SUMMARY:The FAA proposes to adopt a new airworthiness directive (AD) for all Textron Aviation Inc. (Textron) Models 180, 180A, 180B, 180C, 180D, 180E, 180F, 180G, 180H, 180J, 180K, 182, 182A, 182B, 182C, 182D, 185, 185A, 185B, 185C, 185D, 185E, A185E, and A185F airplanes. The grieving families need the analysis to be done on that blade. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. He may have not been able to retrieve it. No words exist to describe the void that will be left by Rocks absence. Throwing a blade as they throttled back up would do it. After initiating a turn to return to the airport, the aircraft eventually descended into, or attempted to ditch into, the ocean a mile offshore. Two witnesses told investigators that the plane plunged nose-down, without any rotation. Googled the N number to find the NTSB report and ended up here, Ive never seen this site before, Ive never commented here, So I appologise if my comment is not welcome. (6:43 in the #2 video)If he really did find it, a responsible person who wanted resolution for the pilots and their loved ones would have immediately called the local FSDO and made sure it got turned over by positive handoff. ------------------------------------------------------------Stay in touch with us anytime, anywhere. HACKBERRY, La. Records show that the day's first flight ended about 2:36 p.m. It is a risk that we accept as we enjoy the thrill of flying. Two of the propeller blades remained attached to the propeller hub and one blade was not recovered." Spokane police video captures emergency response to Michael Clements' crash. But a 182Q isn't a 737Max.. couldn't the pilot overcome a stuck trim with elevator input? Either the pilots made no control input to the elevator or it was mechanically disconnected or impeded.There is a remote possibility that a thru-bolt vibrated out of a connection near the yoke and forward elevator bellcrank, having spun off it's castellated nut due to a omitted cotter pin.What source of vibration could suddenly finish shaking loose an unsecured control connection as they recovered from a practice stall? Tonight & Tomorrow: Beneath clear skies, thermometers Friday AM Forecast: Wind Advisory this morning, clear and sunny this afternoon. The Global Asset Management Group family is saddened by the loss of our dearest friend and colleague, Don Clements. Id say he just wasnt able to retrieve from wherever it was. It won't be there when someone does go back to fetch it. They were aboard a 1979 Cessna 182Q, of which Clements had recently become part owner of.. 7 California, No. Paul Skenes fans a career high 13 in No. There is a long standing agreement between the NTSB and the FAA that the NTSB, because of being short-staffed, has the official authority and do relegate most general aviation accidents solely to the FAA. Hes the guy who trains everybody to do what we do. The plane took off again about 5:13 p.m. and crashed about a half-hour later. Don Clement's will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday . HACKBERRY, La. We appreciate everyone's prayers Clements was a financial planner with Global Asset Management. Observation Facility, Elevation: KLCH,9 ft msl, Distance from Accident Site: 9 Nautical Miles, Wind Speed/Gusts, Direction: 4 knots / , 200, Latitude, Longitude: 30.009412,-93.330048 (est). My sincere condolences to the families. This one is just tough.". According to a co-owner of the airplane, the private pilot had just bought a share of the accident airplane and was in the process of accumulating flight hours for complex and higherformance aircraft endorsements. Correct! NEW ORLEANS The pilot who died in a Feb. 2 plane crash in Louisiana had just bought a share in the aircraft, and the other man killed in the crash was his instructor, the National Transportation Safety Board reported Thursday. Loss of elevator authority as speed reduced at 4500 feet. This is preliminary information, subject to change, and may contain errors. His love for the Calcasieu Parish Sheriffs Department enabled him to serve his community as Captain of the Aviation Unit.Rock graduated from LSU Law School in 1992 and from LSU with a bachelors degree in 1987. He was an FAA licensed Airline Transport Pilot with airplane, jet and helicopter ratings. Beefier police presence planned at football game after BRPD chief got into scuffle while making arrest near campus. Visitation will be at the church from 12:00-3:00 pm. The plane, a single-engine Cessna 182 four-seater, crashed on a small island between Hackberry and Big Lake, near Pete Seay Circle. The Cessna 182Q then departed again at 5:13 p.m. and crashed 31 minutes later at 5:44 p.m. Cameron Parish and Calcasieu Parish authorities worked throughout the night investigating the crash, but are turning over the investigation to a Federal Aviation Administration crew out of Baton Rouge and a National Transportation Safety Board team out of Dallas. or a practice incipient spin, that got the spin stopped , but the nose did not come up, due to forward c of g? Flight Track. ADVERTISEMENT. See March 8, 2021 at 10:18:00 AM EST comment discussion string up thread on search for the missing blade. If you do it wrong, when you come over the top and are inverted, if you let the nose fall towards the ground in a plane like that you can loose three or four thousand feet really fast and can easily exceed redline. Sorting out the problem and making a timely decision to get on the trim control would certainly be a challenge in that scenario. Flight instructor, student pilot identified as victims in fatal plane crash near Hackberry. (KPLC) - Two bodies have been recovered from the wreckage of a plane that went down near Hackberry Tuesday, Cameron Sheriff Don Johnson said. The families have been notified, the sheriff said. he always worked hard. Richard Don Clements, 55, a well-respected financial planner and talented musician, died on Tuesday, February 2, 2021 in an aviation accident. Rock touched many, many people and this is about as tough a loss as you can get for this office and this community, Mancuso said. Don Clements will be having a visitation from 12 p.m. to 3 p.m. on Saturday, February 6, and funeral at 3 p.m. Click here to see Calcasieu Parish Sheriff Tony Mancuso and District Attorney Stephen Dwight speak about what it was like to know Rock Palermo. The Cessna 182 was destroyed when it crashed straight down onto an island northeast of Hackberry in Cameron Parish and sank 15 feet (4.6 meters) down into the soft soil, the NTSB preliminary. No obvious reason so far for not pulling out from the dive. When I switched to a slightly smaller three-bladed prop to get a little more tip clearance, I found that the plane would just stop flying when the throttle was pulled back to idle or near idle. I suggested this in comments a couple of other places, and every time I've gotten ripped on about how wrong I was, and I probably am wrong, but I had a gut feeling about this when I first heard of it, two guys in a modern regular nothing special airplane doing minor training, returning to the airport, aircraft was 4,000 AGL then inexplicably nosedives into the ground, severe clear visibility calm winds, no obvious weather or mechanical reason for the crash.