Yes, I already understood my mistake. I tested it but trying to boot it will fail with an I/O error. If you burn the image to a CD, and use a USB CD drive, I bet you find it will install fine. Yes. The BIOS decides to boot Ventoy in Legacy BIOS mode or in UEFI mode. If someone has physical access to a system then Secure Boot is useless period. Does the iso boot from s VM as a virtual DVD? How did you get it to be listed by Ventoy? @ventoy used Super UEFIinSecureBoot Disk files to disable UEFI file policy, that's the easiest way, but not a 'proper' one. So, Secure Boot is not required for TPM-based encryption to work correctly. Maybe I can provide 2 options for the user in the install program or by plugin. And, unless you're going to stand behind every single Ventoy user to explain why you think it shouldn't matter that Ventoy will let any unsigned bootloader through, that's just not going to fly. Both are good. 4. In Linux, you need to specify the device to install Ventoy which can be a USB drive or local disk. Getting the same error as @rderooy. I can provide an option in ventoy.json for user who want to bypass secure boot. Sorry for my ignorance. I made a larger MEMZ.img and that runs on Easy2Boot and grubfm in VBOX but it goes wrong booting via Ventoy for some reason. Boot net installer and install Debian. Please follow the guid bellow. If someone has physical access to a system and that system is enabled to boot from a USB drive, then all they need to do is boot to an OS such as Ubuntu or WindowsPE or WindowsToGo from that USB drive (these OS's are all signed and so will Secure boot). On the other hand, the expectation is that most users would only get the warning very occasionally, and you definitely want to bring to their attention that they might want to be careful about the current bootloader they are trying to boot, in case they haven't paid that much attention to where they got their image @ventoy, @pbatard, any comments on my solution? Many thanks! Hi, Gentoo LiveDVD doesn't work, when I try to boot it, It's showing up the GRUB CLI They can choose to run a signed Ubuntu EFI file and Ventoy can change it's default function using scripts and file injection. Would be nice if this could be supported in the future as well. 1.0.84 IA32 www.ventoy.net ===> Some known process are as follows: Ventoy does not always work under VBox with some payloads. So all Ventoy's behavior doesn't change the secure boot policy. So any method that allows users to boot their media without having to explicitly disable Secure Boot can be seen as a nice thing to have even if it comes at the price of reducing the overall security of one's computer. Questions about Grub, UEFI,the liveCD and the installer. ***> wrote: Well occasionally send you account related emails. Well occasionally send you account related emails. Google for how to make an iso uefi bootable for more info. ventoy_x64.efi/ventoy_util_x64.efi ) , they do need digital signatures. Ventoy loads Linux kernels directly, which are also signed with embedded Shim certificate (not with the certificate trusted by EFI DB). For instance, it could be that only certain models of PC have this problem with certain specific ISOs. Thanks! 7. If you get some error screen instead of the above blue screen (for example, Linpus lite xxxx). Remain what in the install program Ventoy2Disk.exe . With that with recent versions, all seems to work fine. 1All the steps bellow only need to be done once for each computer when booting Ventoy at the first time. I have this same problem. I have the same error, I can boot from the same usb, the same iso file and the same Ventoy on asus vivobook but not on asus ROG. Rufus or WoeUSB, in several meaningful ways.The program does not extract ISO images or other image formats to the USB drive but . Is there any progress about secure boot support? It woks only with fallback graphic mode. Ventoy up to 1.0.12 used the /dev/mapper/ventoy approach to boot. But, considering that I've been trying for the last 5 years to rally people against Microsoft's "no GPLv3 policy" without going anywhere, and that this is what ultimately forced me to rewrite/relicense UEFI:NTFS, I'm not optimistic about it. Hiren's BootCD Sign in But that not means they trust all the distros booted by Ventoy. I would also like to point out that I reported the issue as a general remark to help with Ventoy development, after looking at the manner in which Ventoy was addressing the Secure Boot problem (and finding an issue there), rather than as an actual Ventoy user. plist file using ProperTree. For me I'm missing Hiren's Boot CD (https://www.hirensbootcd.org/) - it's WindowsPE based and supports UEFI from USB. Ventoy will search all the directories and sub directories recursively to find all the iso files and list them in the boot menu. In Windows, Ventoy2Disk.exe will only list the device removable and in USB interface type by default. 6. always used Archive Manager to do this and have never had an issue. @ventoy The current release of Slax (slax-64bit-11.2.1.iso) fails to boot using UEFI64 using ventoy with the error message: Maybe the image does not support x64 uefi . Nierewa Junior Member. I have the same error with EndeavorOS_Atlantis_neo_21_5.iso using ventoy 1.0.70. the EndeavorOS iso boots with no issues when on it's on usb, but not through ventoy. la imagen iso,bin, etc debe ser de 64 bits sino no la reconoce Let the user access their computer (fat chance they're going to remove the heatsink and thermal paste to see if their CPU was changed, especially if, as far as they are concerned, no change as occurred and both the computer appearance and behaviour are indistinguishable from usual). You signed in with another tab or window. A lot of work to do. All other distros can not be booted. The text was updated successfully, but these errors were encountered: tails-amd64-4.5.iso Legacy tested with VM Anything Debian-based fails to boot for me across two computers and several versions of Ventoy. Try updating it and see if that fixes the issue. privacy statement. But, just like GRUB, I assert that this matter needs to be treated as a bug that warrants fixing, which is the reason I created this issue in the first place. By default, secure boot is enabled since version 1.0.76. Guid For Ventoy With Secure Boot in UEFI Of course, there are ways to enable proper validation. its existence because of the context of the error message. I remember that @adrian15 tried to create a sets of fully trusted chainload chains Hopefully, one of the above solutions help you fix Ventoy if its not working, or youre experiencing booting issues. Adding an efi boot file to the directory does not make an iso uefi-bootable. If your PC is unable to process Ventoy as bootable media, then you may need to disable secure boot. I don't know why. I have installed Ventoy on my USB and I have added some ISO's files : Any progress towards proper secure boot support without using mokmanager? You can grab latest ISO files here : Maybe I can get Ventoy's grub signed with MS key. 10 comments andycuong commented on Mar 17, 2021 completed meeuw mentioned this issue on Jul 31, 2021 [issue]: Can't boot Ventoy UEFI Native (Without CSM) on HP ProBook 640g1 #1031 The same applies to OS/2, eComStation etc. Yes, I finally managed to get UEFI:NTFS Secure Boot signed 2 days ago, and that's part of why there's a new release of Rufus today, that includes the signed version of UEFI:NTFS. Will it boot fine? Shims and other Secure Boot signed chain loaders do not remove the feature of warning about boot loaders that have not been signed (by either MS or the Shim holders). However, some ISO files dont support UEFI mode so booting those files in UEFI will not work. If the ISO is on the tested list, then clearly it is a problem with your particular equipment, so you need to give the details. Changed the extension from ".bin" to ".img" according to here & it didn't work. Tested ISO: https://github.com/rescuezilla/rescuezilla/releases/download/2.4/rescuezilla-2.4-64bit.jammy.iso. etc. I tested Manjaro ISO KDE X64. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); If you have a tech problem, we probably covered it! Is there a way to force Ventoy to boot in Legacy mode? Copyright Windows Report 2023. Code that is subject to such a license that has already been signed might have that signature revoked. This same image I boot regularly on VMware UEFI. JonnyTech's response seems the likely circumstance - however: I've Ventoy doesn't load the kernel directly inside the ISO file(e.g. If that was the case, I would most likely sign Ventoy for my SHIM (provided it doesn't let through unsigned bootloaders when Secure Boot is enabled, which is the precise issue we are trying to solve) since, even if it's supposed to be a competitor of Rufus, I think it's a very nice solution and I'm always more than happy to direct people who would like to have a multiboot version of Rufus to use Ventoy instead. openSUSE-Tumbleweed-KDE-Live-x86_64-Snapshot20200326-Media.iso - 952MB After boot into the Ventoy main menu, pay attention to the lower left corner of the screen: to your account, MB: GA-P110-D3, CPU: Intel Core i5 6400, RAM: 8GB DDR4, GPU: IGFX + NVIDIA GT730, MB: GA-H81M-S2PV, CPU : Intel Core i3 4650, RAM 8GB DDR3 GPU: IGFX, slitaz-rolling-core-5in1.iso Sign up for a free GitHub account to open an issue and contact its maintainers and the community. @blackcrack Well occasionally send you account related emails. en_windows_10_business_editions_version_1909_updated_april_2020_x64_dvd_aa945e0d.iso | 5 GB, en_windows_10_business_editions_version_2004_x64_dvd_d06ef8c5.iso | 5 GB And of course, people expect that if they run UEFIinSecureBoot or similar software, whose goal is explicitly stated as such, it will effectively remove Secure Boot. size 5580453888 bytes (5,58 GB) Maybe we should just ask the user 'This file is not signed by Microsoft for 'Secure Boot' - do you still wish to boot from it?' MD5: f424a52153e6e5ed4c0d44235cf545d5 While Ventoy is designed to boot in with secure boot enabled, if your computer does not support the secure boot feature, then an error will result. I see your point, this CorePlus ISO is indeed missing that EFI file. Yes. Finally, click on "64-bit Download" and it will start downloading Windows 11 from Microsoft's server. gsrd90 New Member. Freebsd has some linux compatibility and also has proprietary nvidia drivers. Worked fine for me on my Thinkpad T420. da1: quirks=0x2. ^^ maybe a lenovo / thinkpad / thinkcentre issue ? Again, the major problem I see with this fine discussion is that everybody appears to be tiptoeing around the fact that some users have no clue what Secure Boot is intended for (only that, because it says "Secure" they don't want to turn it off), and, rather than trying to educate them about that, we're trying to find ways to keep them "feeling safe" when the choices they might make would leave their system anything but. That error i have also with WinPE 10 Sergei is booting with that error ( on Skylake Processor). 5. It is pointless to try to enforce Secure Boot from a USB drive. if this issue was addressed), it could probably be Secure Boot signed, in the same manner as UEFI:NTFS was itself Secure Boot signed. if you want can you test this too :) Although it could be disabled on all typical motherboards in UEFI setup menu, sometimes it's not easily possible e.g. slitaz-next-180716.iso, Symantec.Ghost.Boot.CD.12.0.0.10658.x64.iso, regular-xfce-latest-x86_64.iso - 1.22 GB These WinPE have different user scripts inside the ISO files. Users enabled Secure Boot to be warned if a boot loader fails Secure Boot validation, regardless of where that bootloader is executed from. However the solution is not perfect enough. also for my friend's at OpenMandriva *waaavvvveee* Must hardreset the System. Shim itself is signed with Microsoft key. Rik. But, even as I don't actually support the idea that Secure Boot is useless if someone has physical access to the device (that was mostly Steve positing this as a means to justify that not being able to detect Secure Boot breaches on USB media isn't that big a deal), I do believe there currently still exist a bit too many ways to ensure that you can compromise a machine, if you have access to said machine.